FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Rushing into things

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic     Forum Index -> GENERAL DISCUSSIONS
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
FIFTHWIND
FLOUNDER? I 'ARDLY KNOW 'ER!


Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 3050
Location: Las Vegas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Rushing into things Reply with quote

The most common problem *most* people encounter when attempting their first novel project is failing to realize that even a short novel is a f***ing long endeavor.

Too many writers rush in and try to get to the good stuff too quickly. Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't have interesting things happening from the beginning, but don't go and blow it all in the opening sentences.

Writing a novel is like dating. If you want it to be a "proper" one, you've got to take it slow. No kissing on the first date and definitely no getting naked while you're still on the dance floor.

Now, some will take this analogy and say that "quickies" can be fun too. But most of us aren't writing pamphlets. (Mokele's standing behind me with murder in his eyes... isn't he? Twisted Evil ) Seriously though, I'm not talking about length (great books come in all sizes)... I'm talking about pacing.

So here's another analogy: Dinner. A wonderful experience... but not if it's just food and eating. Dinners are fun because of the friendships, the conversation, the laughter (and maybe tears), the atmosphere of the restaurant... If it was just a serving of food, then it wouldn't be any fun at all.

Sure, the purpose of the event is nourishment. But it's not fun until you throw in all the things that are outside of that "plot". The stuff that some people would call "unimportant fluff" is the very stuff that makes it all worthwhile. Otherwise we just stuff our faces and leave. Not a memorable event.

Same with a novel... let your reader be seated at the table and enjoy the spirit of the story as it unfolds... don't just shove food (plot) in their face and say, "Eat it... it's good."

Take your time and ease into your story. Make it interesting, capture your readers attention, but remember that you have a truckload of word count to actually get it told, so there's no hurry.

_________________
<b>---Ken Kiser </b>

Only registered users can see links on this forum!
Register or Login on forum!

(My quest for publication)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
mornara
ADMINISTRATOR


Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 2891

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, at the same time, don't serve so many "appetizer" courses that the reader is full by the time they get to the main course. If you hand your reader too many unimportant fillers beforehand, they will be bored long before your story gets moving.

_________________
To run from misery’s thrall to where only the knife-edged thrill stands before the endless fall…

To allow for the existence of one god, we must allow for the existence of all gods.


Only registered users can see links on this forum!
Register or Login on forum!

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
FIFTHWIND
FLOUNDER? I 'ARDLY KNOW 'ER!


Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 3050
Location: Las Vegas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the bad thing about using analogies to make a point...

There's always going to be some A**hole who will come along with a better one... Very Happy

Damn you Mornara!

_________________
<b>---Ken Kiser </b>

Only registered users can see links on this forum!
Register or Login on forum!

(My quest for publication)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
mornara
ADMINISTRATOR


Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 2891

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm already damned darling, you're getting redundant here.

Oh wait, you already were redundant. Razz

It's a good analogy though, and if you look at it, I was actually agreeing with you, and furthering the analogy. So stop whining, and go make more adorable little analogies for me to play with!

_________________
To run from misery’s thrall to where only the knife-edged thrill stands before the endless fall…

To allow for the existence of one god, we must allow for the existence of all gods.


Only registered users can see links on this forum!
Register or Login on forum!

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Kuro
MODERATOR
MODERATOR


Joined: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 1741
Location: College...

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mornara, its not nice to make fun of Fiffy...


And just so my post isn't entirely off topic.

My view on the matter is that jumping into things too fast is something a more inexperienced writer does. Even if you do make that mistake, though, it isn't the end of the world. Go back while you are editing and fix it. I know that it's something I have work on myself.

_________________
"This is goodnight, and not goodbye."

To see the full extent of my insanity, please visit my

Only registered users can see links on this forum!
Register or Login on forum!

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
Shadowflame
MOTHERATOR


Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Posts: 793

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree with FW on the longer approach, however some of the sub plots work nicely as "Quickies". The longer approach give you lots of time to give out tidbits of information about the world, characters, and hints of anythign that leads to the climax of the story. The sub plots just flavor the soup so to speak.

I like to think of characters like someone you meet on the bus. I think it would turn you off if that person launched into a detailed account of thier life the first time you sat next to them. Instead, a good character will give out pieces of information, a little at a time, so that eventually you see the entire complex whole. Over time, you sit next to them, to see what you can find out, and eventually find youself enjoying taking your seat in the morning.

Hopefully I can sucessfully throw them in so that they compliment the plot line instead of throwing it into a knot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic     Forum Index -> GENERAL DISCUSSIONS All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB © 2001 phpBB Group

Chronicles phpBB2 theme by Jakob Persson (http://www.eddingschronicles.com). Stone textures by Patty Herford.

Abuse - Report Abuse
Powered by forumup.org free forum, create your free forum!
Created by Raulken of Hyarbor S.r.l.
TOS & Privacy.

Page generation time: 0.065